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The Vinecast: The Newsvine Podcast - July 23, 2008

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Today Viki and I are joined by kymlee.

You can find the feed for the podcast over here, or if you prefer, you can listen to the audio directly in an embedded player right here(once it shows up), as well as on thevinecast.com. There is even a new "subscribe by email" option from the feed page for those that don't use a podcatcher or rss feed reader but want to be kept up to date. And for you itunes users, of course you can use that too.

Here's just some of what was discussed in the 52 minutes of Vinecast fun...

  • New Yorkers learn that fast food is bad for them
  • Spanish Parliment to give "human rights" to great apes...seriously.
  • Zodiac Killer strikes Wikipedia?
  • Newsvine moves to shiny new servers, expect conversation tracker issues...
  • The Conspiracy continues surrounding this image. Viki drops some vague hints and I threaten to blow the whistle soon.
  • Esquire Magazine Cover uses E-Ink....but.....why?
  • Dennis McCann suspended?
  • David Mcgirr gives me incentive to mess with my skype recording setup enough to call people to real phones during recording. Which I've now done, so it should be an interesting Vinecast tool in the future.
  • MSNBC takes over the "Top of the Vine" page.
  • Animal Shelter to accept 2 dogs trained to have sex with women...it's just that sort of news week I guess...
  • I found "the octopus one"
  • Estelle Getty passed away at 84
  • Cartoon of McCain being prodded in a cage
  • Lollapalooza
  • Celebrity political endorsements...does ANYONE give a crap?
  • Obama gives "fake interviews".....the crickets chirp...
  • winsomecowboy is full of snark...and that's a good thing
  • Is more than an hour too long for three people to blather on and on....yes. Don't worry, the podcast is under an hour, I promise.
  • Brad is never "off the grid"

If you have any suggestions, questions, etc......send them right on over to me at brad@thevinecast.com, and if you have a particular Viner you'd like to hear on the Vinecast (or you'd like to be on the panel yourself), let us know and we'll do our best to make it happen...especially now that I can easily call people on a real phone and take calls...it's easier than ever to be part of the Vinecast!

On a semi related note, if anyone is interested in helping out by creating a logo, or some intro/outro music for the Vinecast....drop me a line and we can work something out.

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What an odd news week, but fun times none-the-less. We'll have to figure out who to prank call next week now that I have everything set for some serious skype to phone action.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
{"commentId":2268310,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I'll listen to this shortly - finally found the perfect time and place to listen to this (at my cafe but outside so I can get some sun on their patio while listening)

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  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
{"commentId":2269746,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

That was fun to listen to - sure helps when you can listen to it while multitasking (reading the relevent articles) without fear of computers crashing.

I posted comments below.

I liked it so much I'm going to go back as time as time allows and listen to other broadcasts.

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  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:59 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2262077,"authorDomain":"yasmin"}

Finally! I kept looking for this to show up on my watchlist. Then I realized that my boss probably wouldn't be too pleased with me listening to this at work. So it's good I found it after work and all...

Off to listen.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
{"commentId":2262562,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

It would have been up earlier, but I was hoping the audio would be embedded by now...and got impatient hehe. So the embedded player here should pop into existence at some point in the semi-near future...until then people will have to bite the bullet and make the extra click ;)

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  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2262603,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

On a semi related note, if anyone is interested in helping out by creating a logo, or some intro/outro music for the Vinecast....drop me a line and we can work something out.

What do you have in mind for intro/outro music?

The Conspiracy continues surrounding this image. Viki drops some vague hints and I threaten to blow the whistle soon.

Yeah, and David McGirr fleshed out the details for us now. You could have blabbed on and on about it, pushed the hype and whatnot.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":2262661,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Yeah, Viki didn't have the go ahead from the others soon enough, but a little birdy (by which I mean David McGirr) seems to think it would be a good idea to listen to the Vinecast next week.....which is extra interesting, since even I didn't know there was a plan in motion on that front until I read his comment about it :D

As for intro/outro music, just a little something to avoid the whole "uh...yeah...so welcome to the vinecast" issue of settling into things. It's much smoother to have a short burst of something that's clearly an intro and ending. What they might be, I dunno, but if you want to take a crack at it or have a fun idea, drop me a line. I'm up for suggestions of all shapes and sizes at this point.

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  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
{"commentId":2262691,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

Hey hey hey.. Don't skive off on the music part. What do you have in mind? I might be able to whip up a candidate by the next 'Cast, if it's something I can do.

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  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
{"commentId":2262729,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

I might be able to whip up a candidate by the next 'Cast

I honestly don't know...just a little tune or assortment of sounds that say "hey you there, you're listening to the Vinecast now, so settle in for the fun".......but....not literately :P Could just be a musical thing, could incorporate some talking that could be recorded for it...as long as it's amazing, I'm up for it! :P

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  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":2262768,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

Okay. If you get any ideas or anything, pop me an e-mail. And if you decide that some kind of guitar lick is what you want... I'm your guy. Orchestration or the like I can't do though...

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  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":2262984,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Guitars are good heh. :)

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  • 2 votes
#3.5 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264097,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

I think a zippy version of the typical evening news music would be cool!

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  • 1 vote
#3.6 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264332,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

Orchestration or the like I can't do though...

Orchestration? We don't need no steenkin' orchestration! We have Garage Band!

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  • 3 votes
#3.7 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264535,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

And that's exactly what I'd be using. You win.

I figure I'll just play around on the axe for awhile, play around with the Musical Typing keyboard for awhile, see what I can come up with.

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  • 3 votes
#3.8 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264991,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

It's all you, Steve. Looking forward to hearing what you come up with.

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  • 2 votes
#3.9 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
{"commentId":2289794,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

Music update:

I'm pretty happy with what I've got written up. For the intro it's like a rock guitar reinvention of the evening news (at Viki's behest). I watched a YouTube clip of John Williams and a symphony recording NBC's music, and took a nod from that, plus an ABC-style fanfare intro. As for outro music, it's basically just a cool-sounding little short song. I played the beginning and end of this week's 'Cast over them and I feel like they fit okay... So here's my new plan.

I'ma change my strings. Haven't done that in a very long time, and boy does it need it. Then I'll lay down official recordings tonight/tomorrow, clean things up in Audacity, and hopefully have them e-mailed your way on Monday. That way, if you realize something doesn't work or you have a brilliant idea, there's still time to change things.

Bueno?

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  • 3 votes
#3.10 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
{"commentId":2289901,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

That sounds extremely glorious. Thank you. Expect much praise :)

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  • 3 votes
#3.11 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2263860,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

Hi Brad, I haven't listened yet, but plan to. It would be nice if you could tell us how long the recording is so we can set aside a block of time to listen.

Thanks

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  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":2263916,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Good idea! I've added that to the article....it's 52 minutes long this week.

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  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264222,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

Thanks Brad.

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  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2263870,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

OK Vinecast, but me 2 cents worth is that the previous were better, but, when news is slow,
news comment is slow.

The thing about the McCann affair is, for me, shocking. Must have been some truly nasty stuff there. Being a noob, I still am quite sensitive to the dreaded suspension thing. Maybe you folks (Brad/Vikki/invited guest...) can shed some light on it.

Lollapalooza coming up, hope E & V get some tasty stuff on the Vinecast.

The Road Trip, same thing but with a bunch reporting from truck stops and Viner safehouses.

Looks like there's much to be expected next time the dynamic duo show up!

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  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
{"commentId":2263903,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

This week was a bit slow on the news front (at least the sort of stuff that tends to breed fun conversation) it seems. There is some seriously interesting stuff being worked out for the very very near future though. Rest assured, it will be glorious!

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  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264120,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

I can put skype on my phone, so I'm thinking about the possibility of having Brad record some "live" reports from Eric and I during Lolla. Of course, I haven't broached that subject with him yet. Brad...consider the subject broached. ;)

I agree that it was a bit slowish. I wasn't as prepared as I have been for the previous 'casts, and now I've learned my lesson on that front. It really is a bit of a work in progress, and I do appreciate y'all listening and offering suggestions and thoughts.

As far as Dennis McCann's suspension goes, I'm not going to comment on it at the moment, mostly because I don't have complete information, and I think that it should come from Dennis if at all.

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  • 3 votes
#5.2 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264209,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

I can put skype on my phone, so I'm thinking about the possibility of having Brad record some "live" reports from Eric and I during Lolla. Of course, I haven't broached that subject with him yet. Brad...consider the subject broached. ;)

I can now successfully take/make calls to/from any phone on skype, so I'm sure we can work out some "live" stuff that can be used in the Vinecast...I can already think of a few fun opportunity it opens up being able to just call people or have people call in (though if they call in, it'll be long distance for most...no 800 number....yet!)

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  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264223,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

Stop poking me with the Lolla stick V!. Seriously, I am really jealous. Press badges. Can I sell my soul? WTF.

Well, when a Viner with a RAV gets suspended, I think its news for Vinecast.

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  • 3 votes
#5.4 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
{"commentId":2264355,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

Yeah, I heard the Dennis thing and was like WTF? I guess I wasn't paying attention much to Newsvine over the weekend while I was working at Netroots Nation.

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  • 2 votes
#5.5 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265002,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

dying to hear how that went, spiffie. Wanna be a guest next week?

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  • 4 votes
#5.6 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265024,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

I can put skype on my phone, so I'm thinking about the possibility of having Brad record some "live" reports from Eric and I during Lolla. Of course, I haven't broached that subject with him yet. Brad...consider the subject broached. ;)

...Eh?

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  • 3 votes
#5.7 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265052,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Huh?

Wouldn't it be fun to call Brad from Lolla with some live reports that he can record? Was I supposed to ask you first? :p

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  • 3 votes
#5.8 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265054,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

...Eh?

To sum it up....gimme your phone number :P

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  • 2 votes
#5.9 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265083,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

Dammit Eric, get with the program. It would be fun for you to broadcast while V is on line for the ladies rooms, er cubicles, er shoot...

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  • 2 votes
#5.10 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265088,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

You're even in luck. I happened to recently install Skype.

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  • 3 votes
#5.11 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265094,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Honestly, the best thing about having press passes is that there are "private" portapotties in the press area. That and the entrance to which one does not have to wait in line. And the chairs in the shade. And the free water and snacks. And the wifi access. And the volunteers whose job it is to keep an eye on my laptop while I go have a beer and dance.

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  • 4 votes
#5.12 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265140,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

You're even in luck. I happened to recently install Skype.

I'll have my people contact your people.

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  • 3 votes
#5.13 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265173,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

My people have been alerted to answer the telephone…for once. Good help is hard to find these days!

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  • 2 votes
#5.14 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265181,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Wouldn't it be fun to call Brad from Lolla with some live reports that he can record?

Heh, maybe you can't tell from the finished products, but before I consult my notes and condense things down my show reviews are basically contradictory, half drunken gibberish.

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  • 5 votes
#5.15 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265248,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

I hate you V. Chairs in the shade? Set aside Portapotties? Free water and snacks?

Wi;fi and fawning gofers...

I am scum...

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  • 2 votes
#5.16 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265264,"authorDomain":"yasmin"}

Ok, first "live" reports from Lolla (ugh I just got a horrible Jane's Addiction flashback) would be great, though I imagine they'd have to be brief to be included in the podcast? Then again, in their uncut forms they can be included in actual articles.

Second, I was shocked to hear about Dennis. I agree that it would be best to hear from him, but still.

Three, would anyone be willing to write up an article on Skype. I'm pretty tech savy, but a tutorial explaining that program would maybe encourage more viners to podcast. Anyway, it's just a suggestion. ;-)

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  • 5 votes
#5.17 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265265,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

maybe you can't tell from the finished products

Well we certainly work hard to keep up the illusion. ;-)

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  • 4 votes
#5.18 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265330,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

No, Eric, I can't tell from the finished products.

Because when I go to shows, I bring my notebook, and then I'm left with eight hundred pages of gibberish, and I just give up, at the very least I write "That was a great show" and move on.

I'm going to have to stay sober during the day this year, so that we can really hit those afterparty things we're getting invited to, and make some sense out of them in the morning before we head back into the madness.

I hope you're prepared. ;)

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  • 5 votes
#5.19 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265440,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

I second yasmin.

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  • 3 votes
#5.20 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":2265497,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

Awww V, yes you can have fun...after you and E give us the news...

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  • 2 votes
#5.21 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:47 PM EDT
{"commentId":2267445,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

but before I consult my notes and condense things down my show reviews are basically contradictory, half drunken gibberish.

That's about as perfect for a Vinecast as I can imagine.... ;)

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  • 1 vote
#5.22 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:23 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2268728,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Better late than never was coined for me. I do enjoy hearing the vinecast though and wouldn't have known about Dennis if it were not for you all mentioning it. Wow, that bites and without even seeing what happened it's impossible to say much more than how awful it is that we have users who come to spam and slander and almost invite viners to go over the line.

Dennis takes a lot of time and energy to try to defend some of the worst predjudice and while his snark skills are surely not appreciated by everyone he is one of the most patient users in most cases. It's another sign of the times that isn't making us smarter.

That brings me to my next point, there's no such thing as too much complaining about MSNBC in my book. While this was and is being sold to viners as having some upside, the only benefits that seem to be here are for the network. As one of the older users who always came here to get smarter and have fund it is not having any positive effect on my time on the vine. The MSNBC content is drowning out the community and overall it's like dumping enough fertilizer on our sweet fennel to nearly kill it.

Thanks again for doing this and if ever viki and kim are looking for side work those laughs of yours are good enough to be on a sound track. Have a great week and let's hope we all survive here. :~)

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  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:18 AM EDT
{"commentId":2268817,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Well thanks for listening....no worries about being "late" lol, there's no race (wait.....there isn't a race right? I hope there isn't....), and as for the MSNBC thing, it COULD be pretty good, but the current way it's being done needs some serious tweaking. The potential for awesomeness is there though, it really is....if things can be worked out to better serve the community.

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  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
{"commentId":2270472,"authorDomain":"kymlee"}

Thanks Pamela. I was just listening to the Vinecast thinking, "Am I really that giggly?" I guess I'm easily amused. :)

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  • 4 votes
#6.2 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
{"commentId":2270517,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

In fairness Viki does have a contagious laugh and listening makes me want to join you all!!

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  • 4 votes
#6.3 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
{"commentId":2274703,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

We did do a lot of laughing!

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  • 3 votes
#6.4 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2269247,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Thoughts on this so far
re: fast food - read Fast Food Nation. You won't regret it.
re: apes. I'm interviewing a graphic novelist-turned-novelist and the same day I read a news story about apes getting rights I got to a part in his fiction book about the undead being presumed alive until proven dead and thus getting legal rights... and I had to wonder which story made more sense. And of course asked him for a comment and....

Whoa - wait? Did I hear my name (for the record I noticed stumbling over my last name. Traditionally it's pronounced butt-key but my genuis sister wondered why we ask for verbal abuse when the default is for people to pronounce it in a more polite way so as of my nieces we're going for bought-key.

Anyway it made me think of the ape issue and how much potential great ethical issues and bellygazing can occur so it's cool that you, Brad, raised the issue.

If someone starts said debate drop me a line.

I think if you mention the zodiac killer while tapping your heels together he'll come join newsvine, probably through a MSNBC seed.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
{"commentId":2270097,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

If someone starts said debate drop me a line.

Why wait for someone else to start it?! :P Drop me a message, or wait for me to harass you again about it later ;)

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  • 1 vote
#7.1 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:31 PM EDT
{"commentId":2270352,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I'm trying to write LESS, not more.

No, seriously....

ok, I'll wait...

Still laughing?

Ok, right now I've been averaging one fresh author or music interview (or viner) a day on weekdays and am booked through next monday.

Any more than that and it seems more like work and lessens the odds it'll be read.

I had a better idea - I just revived the discussion, the seed you linked to at the top of the story.

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  • 1 vote
#7.2 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:52 PM EDT
{"commentId":2270368,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

I think if you mention the zodiac killer while tapping your heels together he'll come join newsvine, probably through a MSNBC seed.

Heh. What's he gonna encrypt? BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA R TEH SUXXOR?

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#7.3 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":2270544,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

read Fast Food Nation. You won't regret it.

Hey Scott, how saying watch Roundup Ready Nation? Where's my home turf advantage? :~)

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#7.4 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
{"commentId":2270769,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Roundup Ready Nation

That reminds me, I never did get that in my forwarded mail.....I'll have to see that at some point...may just have to up and buy a new copy...damn postal service foils me again! lol

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    #7.5 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2276330,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Pamela:
    Sorry, how's this:
    get the value meal full of nutrition information goodness, with the book Fast Food Nation, the movie Round Up nation and some alcohol to help you deal with how depressed all the information will make you?

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    #7.6 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:38 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":2269461,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    re: msnbc discussion - is it time to separate seeds from articles for top of the vine so that, say, winsome's article doesn't have to compete with a 3 paragraph seed from msnbc.

    MSNBC is balkanizing newsvine forcing divisions and rancor into the "boycott msnbc seeds" and such. Good discussion on this over at Kymlee's article

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    Reply#8 - Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
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